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Sina Technology News June 13 news, the plight of industrial transformation and the reality lie? How to shine the dream reality? Associate Professor, Peking University, Lu Hui Pro community,Louis Vuitton bag Monogram Canvas M47500, the famous old Yao IT blog Wang Yanhui has a guest Sina, s foundry industry's development path of industry promotion measures. two experts on 's foundry industry, escalation of heated debate. Lu Hui has repeatedly called attention to the provisional new generation of migrant workers, he believes that the system need to play the role to change the situation of imbalance in labor relations. strength. old Yao is on the transformation of government-driven cautious. desirable to promote the transition, we must upgrade the quality of the premise, the key to upgrading 's industry is still in the availability of sufficient creativity. 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Wen-yuan Following Record interview with abridged: the right to host static: you Sina users Hello everybody, Welcome to Sina's video studio,Gucci Wallets 112664 9668, I was the right to host static. First to introduce the first right-hand side is the universal from the Beijing Zhi Yong, general manager of Semiconductor Test Technology , Wang Yanhui, Wang, and Sina blog, he is also a very popular blogger pen name is called the old Yao. Welcome old Yao. old Yao: Hello, everybody. rights Static: next to all of us who are concerned about the recent Sina microblogging in a series of articles published on concern the new generation of migrant workers from Peking University,Gucci bag Classic 114291, Lu Hui, associate professor of sociology temporary teachers, welcome You Lu teacher. Lu Hui Pro: Hello, Hello, everybody. industrial upgrading, the dream to shine into reality? static power: the human cost of cheap comparative advantage in 's economic development which in the end what should serve as a kind of role, in the end or not it exists, there should also be taken if there is. old Yao: There is now a trend, plant migration of, rather than on the Shenzhen on the mainland to go, because wages in the Mainland and Shenzhen almost the same. The factory moved to Southeast Asia, the boss may not want to move, then good, move to the Mainland, nearby workers, low wages may be tolerable. rights Static: summarize your point of view that the minimum wage in the current status of 's economic structure which is difficult to improve. old Yao: Yes,Chanel bag Dinner bags 223, it is impossible to improve, enhance only two results, because in terms of value for the business benefits and interests. Foxconn driving example for Apple iPad, may be one that is 11 U.S. dollars, and then Apple will not want to dry high. How does it ensure that 11 U.S. dollars? Is squeezing workers. Can not say pressing, is to reduce or to ensure its maximum benefit. Be higher if Foxconn lose out. Lu Hui Pro: I personally believe that the development level of wages is never as we imagine a pure supply and demand market, the wage level is reflected behind the development of labor relations, labor relations behind social relations, which means the power of both parties, has always been the case. We imagine you do not buy I sell Fine, simple, there is no such. Why do we still hold the bottom line of the legal minimum wage, because our workers are too weak, and relative to the capital terms. As to the transfer to the mainland, which of course is very normal, we can not create out of this today in Shenzhen, a number of tragedies in another 5 years, 10 years and then to the Mainland, such a tragedy. It is always chasing the lowest capital cost, as long as it is always possible to minimize the labor force, that is its nature. development model, but today we have to choose what kind of model? In our view, is to develop your respect for words or dignitaries, people's happiness. power static: what is the purpose of our development. Lu Hui Pro: This is one of the most fundamental problem. Just talked about where to move, only to move to Vietnam and Cambodia, Thailand, India earn less than we do. No one can replace our factory to the world problems. static right: you do not worry about transfer. Lu Hui Pro: the phenomenon may be transferred, but you think about the size of the population in Vietnam and Cambodia, and it can provide the processing capacity, in essence, so that capital is always looking for the cheapest place. Another is the extent to which the power of workers is not up, we were down to a human level, there are two questions. rights Static: So give a solution, we will end the subject of wages, from your point of view, this kind of problem should be how to solve? Lu Hui Pro: on the one hand of course, state law, we are making the minimum wage to do more in-depth research, to develop a reasonable standard of minimum wages, I do not advocate raising the minimum wage to be very high,Louis Vuitton wallet M63242, because the minimum wage to consider a variety of situations, different techniques, different scale. Therefore, the real wage is not a reasonable way to compley rely on the minimum wage, a fair wage to obtain, must rely on the expression of the workers has his own demands, to assert his rights and interests of trade unions and workers organizations, Congress, in fact our Chinese society itself is a very good system design, we need it to improve, enrich it, play it real, to safeguard the interests of employees to balance such a role in labor relations. rights Static: I would like to summarize the two may not be contradictory to say the old Yao is mainly from the market point of view, from the perspective of supply and demand, from the employment point of view to talk about the level of wages. However, based on the free market, Lu teachers feel that the Government needed to play a more subjective factors to control to ensure that more people were able to gain in economic development. old Yao: But the Government is really difficult to control, to Shenzhen, the mainland such as wages and Qinghai, Tibet, Sichuan wage ratio is immeasurably's. You may set another low wage in Shenzhen,Balenciaga handbag 084363, another high, will be lower than you. Therefore, peasant workers, definiy consider the migration problem, and the migrant workers are more than enough. rights Static: Just Lu teacher gives his solution, you think government regulation is difficult, you have to solve the solution? old Yao: This can only rely on the market. Lu Hui Pro: other enterprises running social problems, the long term is that these migrant workers should be allowed to become a true urban workers. If you really become urban workers, his �� pattern might is not like this and Yi Xie single people may live in dormitories, married people may have their families, whether yes rent, live in affordable housing, with the workers themselves in the community. Itself is a community, the City Government, there are communities to be responsible for providing many public services, social life, such a function, it can sense the enterprise itself under pressure from a freed. now on the one hand you want to use the system to maximize comfort to manage the workforce, to reduce costs, but on the other hand you do not want to burden one of his resulting psychological and behavioral problems on the various aspects This is a way to shirk their responsibilities. Lu Hui Pro: Today's generation to compley resolve the problem of migrant workers, it is a comprehensive system of works, there is inseparable from our national policy and local government, particularly the efforts of city government. Just now you mentioned that the new generation of migrant workers 80,90, and the first generation of migrant workers, and their parents have a significant difference between generations, and their major difference is that when they are out of the house, most people do not put their future and rural links together, he did not think I will go back to farmers in rural areas do. power static: they are no longer willing to come back. 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In such a circumstances, it came up with a problem, the city today, we say to eliminate the long-term living in the city, to resolve his personal insurmountable obstacles. have we mentioned the employer's request, we have a dignified wage, a sense of life in the city laid down for him to meet the material base to provide a basic income. As a national policy and local government concerned, you need to provide a range of policies to protect him. For instance, we say a person will encounter the problem settled, housing, children's education there are other social protection. We are doing when urban planning, education planning in health care planning, when these people can no longer exclude the. We are now basically an urban planning mainly local residents. Lu Hui Pro: This is a fundamental solution to this problem, corporate responsibility and government responsibility. power static: more rises to the level of government. Lu Hui Pro: The two aspects. Because even if our government to build low-cost housing, affordable housing, if still take today,Gucci Wallets 181669 1060, a minimum wage. static right: the main profit-sharing should be more to these people. Lu Hui Pro: If you took today's wages, what kind of low-cost housing, affordable housing is very difficult to rent or buy. Previous 1 2 Next Related: Foxconn alternative raises and the truth: do not lose money on gimmicks Commerce Foxconn event: the first advantage of cheap labor, people of non attract investment, said Department staff suicide Foxconn Foxconn salary survey will be open after that is a lot of muddy Shenzhen OEM salary withdrawal
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